Because it’s the godless Libruls that threaten America…

Phoenix Pastor Draws Protests After Telling Church He Prays For Obama’s Death

This man is full of hate. “I disagree with him so I want him to die.”

And these are God’s representatives on earth, are they?

No turn the other cheek for these self-righteous evil people, eh? And no — we’ve never heard the exact same type of words that have spewed from Steven Anderson’s mouth from the mouths of the Taliban in the name of their God, have we? Nope, nohow, noway. Uh huh.

Oh yes. It’s the Libruls and Teh Gays and the Uppity Wimmin who are going to destroy the world.

And my fundie relatives wonder why I no longer participate in this evil, hate-filled spew any longer.

Rick Warren is a Christian liar

Good little Christian pastor Rick Warren was on Larry King on CNN, on April 6. Here’s a transcript. Please note his remarks a little over halfway down in the transcript:

I am not an anti-gay or anti-gay marriage activist. I never have been, never will be.

During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never — never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going.

Then go watch this YouTube video of Rick Warren endorsing and supporting Prop Hate, and encouraging people to do the same:

As one of my online friends says, “Doesn’t it make baby Jesus cry when you lie, little Ricky?”

Be sure your sin will find you out, bucko.

(Many thanks to Tonya J for the heads-up on this.)

Neo-Con Religious Idiot in charge of Canada’s Science

Oh goody.

Canada’s Minister of State for Science and Technology gets asked a question about science (“do you believe in evolution?”), and he answers religiously (“I don’t think anybody asking a question about my religion is appropriate”).

Read the full story in this Globe and Mail article: Minister won’t confirm belief in evolution.

He might have had slight — just slight — justification in mentioning religion, since the basic question was whether he believed in evolution as our government Science guy, people being worried about that because he is a creationist.

And yet.

Do you get what he’s admitting?? Two things:

  1. creationism is religious, not scientific; and therefore its sneaky relative, “Intelligent Design” (which uses the same creationist textbooks but just changes the word “creationism” to “Intelligent Design” to try to sneak it past the regulations about not teaching religion in school), is also religious
  2. he believes evolution with all its evidence is merely a religious belief; this is a common fallacy taught by creationists, since they don’t base anything on actual evidence, but on their religious beliefs

And this is the guy in charge of Canada’s science and technology?? Damn, is this country in trouble.

Many scientists fear 10 years of gains will be wiped out by a government that doesn’t understand the importance of basic, curiosity-driven research, which history shows leads to the big discoveries. They worry Canada’s best will decamp for the United States, where President Barack Obama has put $10-billion (U.S) into medical research as part of his plan to stimulate economic growth.

Indeed. Be afraid, scientists. Be very afraid. We already know the government fires people from Health Canada if their evidence doesn’t support the neo-Con ideology. It’s going to get worse as long as these bastards hold any power whatsoever in this country.

Just when North America gets rid of faith-based “science” south of the 49th parallel, we’ve got a guy in charge of our own science who judges scientific ideas not by whether they are supported by sound evidence, but by whether Moses or the apostle Paul like the evidence or not.

Jim Turk, executive director of the Canadian Association of University Teachers, said he was flabbergasted that the minister would invoke his religion when asked about evolution.

“The traditions of science and the reliance on testable and provable knowledge has served us well for several hundred years and have been the basis for most of our advancement. It is inconceivable that a government would have a minister of science that rejects the basis of scientific discovery and traditions,” he said.

But at least we’ve got it on record now, and the moron can’t escape it. Creationism is not science, but religion.

Otherwise, he’d have had no problem whatsoever discussing it in the context of a conversation about science. Right?? Right.

Religious Conservatives and Porn: why am I not surprised?

A new study of American states has revealed that those that are most “red” — i.e. the most religious and conservative — experience a higher consumption of pornography than those that are “blue,” i.e. criticized by red state people as “liberal and decadent.”

As the New Scientist website reports in its article, Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers, “Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption.”

Benjamin Edelman from Harvard Business School did the survey, using two years’ worth (2006-2008) of anonymized credit card receipts from a major online adult entertainment provider.

We can rest easy, though, about our super-religious brethren. At least they gave it a teeny tiny rest on The Lord’s Day:

Church-goers bought less online porn on Sundays – a 1% increase in a postal code’s religious attendance was associated with a 0.1% drop in subscriptions that day. However, expenditures on other days of the week brought them in line with the rest of the country, Edelman finds.

There’s also an interesting correlation between states’ judgement of gay people, and the use of porn:

Residents of 27 states that passed laws banning gay marriages boasted 11% more porn subscribers than states that don’t explicitly restrict gay marriage.

[snip]

States where a majority of residents agreed with the statement “I have old-fashioned values about family and marriage,” bought 3.6 more subscriptions per thousand people than states where a majority disagreed. A similar difference emerged for the statement “AIDS might be God’s punishment for immoral sexual behaviour.”

Edelman believes that all of this has something to do with the repression that religious conservatives teach, when it comes to sex.

I agree with that, being an ex-fundie and ex-conservative, and knowing how that repression just makes things boil inside until they have to explode outward. And this ties in with another interesting fact I learned several years ago.

Studies have also shown that among identifiable sub-groups in society, the highest rate of spousal and child abuse also occurs in fundamentalist religious families. I was pretty stunned by this (though I shouldn’t have been, knowing a couple of my own fundie relatives as I did). I might even have been tempted to raise my eyebrows at this fact, if I hadn’t read exactly the same thing from both a fundamentalist feminist and an anti-religious feminist. If even the fundamentalist female sociologist acknowledged these studies — they had to carry some legitimacy, and the evidence was very disturbing.

It’s also no surprise any longer, when we see preachers and lawmakers screaming loudly about how awful The Gays are, and then watching as those same men are discovered in motel rooms having homosexual dalliances, or watching them arrested for soliciting men in an airport bathroom. (See: fundie preacher Ted Haggard and Republican Senator Larry Craig) The louder they yell and the more vehemently they condemn, the more likely, it seems, that they are repressing and desiring the very thing they condemn.

Of course, the fundies will say that this little pornography thingie just proves their point: we are all terribly sinful, and only the conservative Republican fundamentalist God can save us.

Um, no. All this proves, guys, is that you are terribly sinful, and your nasty stomping deity not only doesn’t save you from your natural urges, but makes them worse. After all, the porn trend among those liberal decadent blue state types was lower than yours:

Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year’s presidential election – Florida and Hawaii were the exceptions. While six out of the lowest 10 favoured Barack Obama.

So perhaps those religious types in the red states who want to trumpet how righteous they are and how evil we are…? Should just shut up and slink away to their dank corners.

(Thanks go to the Carnal Nation website for pointing out the above article and study.)

And rightly so, Mr. Phelps…

It’s nice to see some governments recognizing hate speech that incites people to murder (see this post about Bill O’Reilly and his ilk).

Anti-gay American cleric banned from UK for inciting hatred

A homophobic American cleric who runs a website called God Hates Fags and was allegedly planning to picket a play showing in the UK has been banned from Britain by the home secretary, Jacqui Smith.

Fred Phelps had vowed to come to Britain with his daughter, Shirley, to picket a school play in Basingstoke, Hampshire, that promotes tolerance for gay people. The play, The Laramie Project, depicts the murder of a homosexual teenager, ­Matthew Shepard, in the Wyoming town in 1998. It will be staged tomorrow evening at Queen Mary’s College.

Phelps, who runs the Primitive Baptist Westboro church in Topeka, Kansas – most of whose congregation are members of his family, including his 13 children – has bought a plot of land in Laramie where he plans to build a memorial celebrating the murder, despite local opposition.

There’s more, but who needs it? Enough to know that this foul-mouthed hate-filled little crab scuttling across the face of the earth spewing poison will not be doing it in the U.K. Well done.

Another man resorts to a fundie philosophy, to justify killing woman

(Pardon me for spamming this from another of my blogs. It pertains in both the political blog, and here.)

Yet another case of a man who is affronted that his property — pardon me, his wife — wants a divorce and will no longer be in what he perceives as his control.

So naturally, he kills her.

Same scenario played out countless times in North America, by men who are such whiny babies that if someone they perceive as “theirs” doesn’t want to be with them any more, they are unable to be grownup and accept the valid choice of their equal, adult partner, but must throw a violent tantrum. The equivalent of stomping all over their toys to make sure that if the toys are being taken away from them, nobody else can own them or enjoy them — ever.

Men who grew to be five years old, and stayed there. Stupid, stupid little immature, whiny babies.

There’s one difference in this story, though: the man and woman had started Bridges TV, a television station “with the message of developing understanding between North America and the Middle East and South Asia.”

That means that all Muslims, even moderate ones, are going to get tarred with the same brush as this guy. So he’s destroyed a whole roomful of everyone else’s toys, not just his own. He must feel real powerful now, that hollow little shell of a man.

Nancy Sanders, a former employee of Bridges TV, says in the article that she doesn’t believe this was an “honour killing,” but that it was just the conclusion of a streak of domestic violence that had been going on in the family for a while.

She may be right, in theory. But the fact is that these men always find an excuse in their beliefs. It is not a coincidence that this man beheaded his wife. There’s your “honour killing” tradition just staring you in the face. It was there, perfectly at hand for this man, when he wanted it.

Fundamentalist belief systems give these men exactly what they’re looking for when they want to wreck their toys. It doesn’t even matter how “moderate” they are. That goes for all fundamentalisms — Christian, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu — they all have the weapons just waiting for their men to use against the women they regard as their property. Same song, always, in perpetuity — just a different tune occasionally.

And frankly, it’s when your philosophy meets a real test that you discover whether or not you truly believe it. This guy’s “moderation” only lasted while it was convenient and he didn’t have to work to live up to it. First big test his philosophy meets? BLAM.

Small, whiny little immature bug of a tantrum-throwing baby. So much for your principles, pig.

At least *some* of them behave like supposed Christians

My first thought when I heard about that Christian — Christian! – school basketball team that ran up the score to 100-0 against a team from a very small school helping people with disabilities, was, “Yep, those fundies. Milk of human kindness to the core.”

Since then, however, the school itself has issued a statement in which it says, “This clearly does not reflect a Christ-like and honorable approach to competition. We humbly apologize for our actions and seek the forgiveness of Dallas Academy, TAPPS and our community.”

And in this article, near the bottom, it sounds like some of the parents were at least embarrassed and hope to see better outcomes in the future, though it doesn’t explicitly say they thought the team (encouraged by their now-fired coach) did the wrong thing.

This is all good, and hopefully will help make amends. But I’m afraid, after the fundies’ record of the last decade or two, I still have to wonder if they would have apologized or fired the coach or anything else, if this story hadn’t achieved the national and international notoriety it did.

Which should demonstrate to all fundie Christians that they’ve done an awful lot to induce that sort of automatic suspicion and scepticism in our minds. And maybe they need to do a lot more, to make amends to “the community,” than just fire a coach and issue an apology. A nation-wide housecleaning and a heckuva lot of repentance for the even more vicious deeds of the last 20 years would be just the ticket.

Fundies believe if Obama wins, it’s “anti-God”

This moron doesn’t even know that “Hindu” isn’t a god. Nor, in fact, is the Buddha! And nobody on the planet, anywhere at all, is praying to “Hindu” or to “Buddha.”

But that’s how fundamentalists view the world. If you’re not a fundie Christian, you’re actually anti-God, and it’s a victory for God’s enemies if someone other than their candidate wins! There is no such thing, in their rigid, rule-bound, intolerant, anti-everyone-but-us world view as an honest American who looks at each candidate and genuinely decides, “Hey, I think Obama has better policies.” That person isn’t a genuine, honest fellow-American – that person, to fundie American Christians – is an ENEMY.

Will anyone be surprised when these people rise up with guns, and start a civil war in their warmongering God’s name, so he will “win”? I sure won’t.

The Taliban live! (in every religion)

Here’s a disgusting — but typical — tidbit from extreme fundamentalism, this time in Judaism.  Canoe News is carrying this article:

Jewish ‘modesty patrols’ sow fear in Israel as zealots mount a new campaign

They hurl stones at women for such “sins” as wearing a red blouse, and attack stores selling devices that can access the Internet.

In recent weeks, self-styled “modesty patrols” have been accused of breaking into the apartment of a Jerusalem woman and beating her for allegedly consorting with men.

They have torched a store that sells MP4 players, fearing devout Jews would use them to download pornography.

“These breaches of purity and modesty endanger our community,” said 38-year-old Elchanan Blau, defending the bearded, black-robed zealots. …

Fundamentalist rigidity always ends up in violence, and most often, it targets women. There is no more woman-hating crowd than a fundamentalist crowd. Women are responsible for all the men’s sins, and women get punished for the men’s own inability to FUCKING GROW UP and take responsibility for their own morality.

Fundamentalist men are a bunch of childish, whining babies who throw temper tantrums and scream at the world for not tailoring itself to them.

Read the rest of the article. It will demonstrate exactly what sort of world the fundies really want to create — kind of a combo Stalinist-Taliban police state with the fundie men, naturally, in charge.

There is no difference between the men in this news story and the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan. This would make both groups — Jewish and Islamic — scream in righteous fury. But they are identical. They are exactly the same — each group just uses a different god as their excuse.

It is almost worth anyything we have to do, to wipe this scourge from the earth. At the very least, we must throw these people in jail the minute they lift a violent finger against someone. Never, never should the state give implicit approval. NEVER.

If I had my way, every fundamentalist on earth would be rounded up and locked away with lots of agricultural tools in some otherwise-empty stretch of geography, with a 200-foot wall built around it. They should be left there for 100 years, without any contact from the outside world. Then, a century later, we could open the wall and either find a society that has learned to survive and cooperate and live rationally, humanely, and civilly — or, more likely, we could pick the skeletons clean after they’d all killed each other within the first month or two.

Good riddance, either way.

Christian theocrats pray for John McCain’s death

Being an ex-fundamentalist, I knew American fundies would be thinking this way in secret. Now that they’ve got a rabid fundie as their Vice Presidential nominee, I just knew that they’d be looking at John McCain (who they’ve highly disapproved of up to this point) and thinking, “Gee, if only God would make him die, we could make our theocracy dreams come true with President Palin!”

However, I didn’t expect them to say such things out loud, because even they (I thought) know better than to do that. Theoretically, they would know how — well, how fascist, how totalitarian, how evil it would sound. They’ve got to at least pretend, being Christians, that they don’t believe in murder in the name of ‘God’s cause.’

How naive of me. I’ve been away too long, apparently.

Theocrats to Pray for McCain’s Death

In that post, Frederick Clarkson summarizes many fundies’ views about this, then goes on to quote one fundie directly: “Pray for John McCain’s salvation and speedy death. (Google The Forerunner’s articles on Imprecatory Prayer if you think this is harsh.)”

Interestingly, when I followed the link to that fundie’s blog, I discovered that he had changed what he originally wrote: “Pray for John McCain’s salvation and pray specific imprecatory prayers if he fails to pro-actively defend the sanctity of human life. (Google The Forerunner’s articles on Impecatory Prayer if you don’t understand this.)”

I suspect the individual realized he was being watched, as he advocated divine murder, and hastily veiled his words, using “code words” instead. But the words “imprecatory prayer” essentially mean that you pray to God to smite (i.e. kill or severely hurt) your enemies. Don’t be deceived. This individual is praying for God to kill John McCain, as surely as he breathes. This is the type of person we’re dealing with, who supports Sarah Palin.

Clarkson quotes others who advocate the same thing, and as you read the comments on their blogs advocating divine murder of John McCain, and see how enthusiastically they’re received, you realize that these are evil, evil people seeking to destroy their country in the name of a fascist God-world where they themselves get to ram their extremist beliefs down the rest of our throats.

(The tragedy is that there really are thousands and thousands of good, kind, well-meaning Republican people-on-the-street, who think they’re supporting “family values” and a philosophy that honours God and will produce a good country. Can you imagine their horror when they start seeing what they’ve helped bring about? But it won’t last long. Unfortunately, they’ll be first up against the wall, when the pogroms start. Totalitarians always destroy the good people in their own movements, shortly after those poor sheep have pushed them into control of the land.)

Earlier today, a friend of mine remarked, “The Thugs really are looking more and more like Nazis. They’ve got the Kinder, Kuchen, and Kirche going with Palin now, and the Gestapo. What else is missing?”

To which my response was: “Kamps.”

All the real conservatives out there had better beware. If God doesn’t kill John McCain, these people will, as “God’s messengers.” And then it’s the ovens for the rest of us.

Meanwhile, John McCain may have signed his own death warrant with this choice.

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